john317(AKA Gary the Old guy) wrote:Sorry guy's. Should have said "trying" to ban the bible.
I'll get back into this this weekend when I have a little more free time.
mikeythemars wrote:With all due respect , the ignorant apologetic support for the tax and spend Washington bureaucracy here makes me laugh.Do you have any kool-aid to spare?
Or put another way, you all seem to be in a tizzy because McCain threw a curve ball that none of you anticipated and don't have a clue on how to deal with.
Well, welcome your worst nightmare.
Yes, this was supposed to be election the Democrats "couldn't" lose. Oprah has anointed Obama, Bush is unpopular and it's all in the can. Let's go have a beer.
But noooooo....suddenly,the opposition doesn't go by the anticipated beaten path playbook (ah, how quickly people forget McCain is a military strategist). Instead, they nominate an outsider - who just happens to be an attractive, articulate reformer who makes Obama look dull and Biden beyond dull (want to argue that? Chew on this and then forget even trying: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain).
And for your sake I hope you don't all keep making the stupid mistake of underestimating the capabilities of this tough woman in an election race. The landscape of Alaska is littered with the corpses of people who did. And Biden (if he lasts, there are already serious rumors Obama is thinking of dropping him) is next.
And as for all the Daily Kos crap some of you are posting (yawn), please, get current. CBS and CNN have already tried to leverage that stuff and are getting nowhere. So your little investigative sandobx here is to put it politely a meaningless joke.
Bastardking3000 wrote:mikeythemars wrote:With all due respect , the ignorant apologetic support for the tax and spend Washington bureaucracy here makes me laugh.Do you have any kool-aid to spare?
Or put another way, you all seem to be in a tizzy because McCain threw a curve ball that none of you anticipated and don't have a clue on how to deal with.
Well, welcome your worst nightmare.
Yes, this was supposed to be election the Democrats "couldn't" lose. Oprah has anointed Obama, Bush is unpopular and it's all in the can. Let's go have a beer.
But noooooo....suddenly,the opposition doesn't go by the anticipated beaten path playbook (ah, how quickly people forget McCain is a military strategist). Instead, they nominate an outsider - who just happens to be an attractive, articulate reformer who makes Obama look dull and Biden beyond dull (want to argue that? Chew on this and then forget even trying: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain).
And for your sake I hope you don't all keep making the stupid mistake of underestimating the capabilities of this tough woman in an election race. The landscape of Alaska is littered with the corpses of people who did. And Biden (if he lasts, there are already serious rumors Obama is thinking of dropping him) is next.
And as for all the Daily Kos crap some of you are posting (yawn), please, get current. CBS and CNN have already tried to leverage that stuff and are getting nowhere. So your little investigative sandobx here is to put it politely a meaningless joke.
mikeythemars wrote:With all due respect , the ignorant apologetic
mikeythemars wrote:support for the tax and spend Washington bureaucracy here makes me laugh.
mikeythemars wrote: you all seem to be in a tizzy because McCain threw a curve ball that none of you anticipated and don't have a clue on how to deal with.
mikeythemars wrote:Well, welcome your worst nightmare
mikeythemars wrote:Yes, this was supposed to be election the Democrats "couldn't" lose. Oprah has anointed Obama, Bush is unpopular and it's all in the can. Let's go have a beer.
mikeythemars wrote:McCain is a military strategist).
mikeythemars wrote:Instead, they nominate an outsider - who just happens to be an attractive, articulate reformer who makes Obama look dull
mikeythemars wrote:and Biden beyond dull
mikeythemars wrote: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain).
mikeythemars wrote:And for your sake I hope you don't all keep making the stupid mistake of underestimating the capabilities of this tough woman in an election race. The landscape of Alaska is littered with the corpses of people who did.
mikeythemars wrote: And Biden (if he lasts, there are already serious rumors Obama is thinking of dropping him) is next.
mikeythemars wrote:And as for all the Daily Kos crap some of you are posting (yawn), please, get current. CBS and CNN have already tried to leverage that stuff and are getting nowhere. So your little investigative sandobx here is to put it politely a meaningless joke.
Knoxfire wrote:I wouldn't trust a supposedly Conservative woman who harps about family values, yet whose unmarried daughter is about to bring a bastard child in the world. If she can't convince her own daughter of the sanctity of marriage, how can she convince America?
mikeythemars wrote:With all due respect , the ignorant apologetic support for the tax and spend Washington bureaucracy here makes me laugh.
Or put another way, you all seem to be in a tizzy because McCain threw a curve ball that none of you anticipated and don't have a clue on how to deal with.
Well, welcome your worst nightmare.
Yes, this was supposed to be election the Democrats "couldn't" lose. Oprah has anointed Obama, Bush is unpopular and it's all in the can. Let's go have a beer.
But noooooo....suddenly,the opposition doesn't go by the anticipated beaten path playbook (ah, how quickly people forget McCain is a military strategist). Instead, they nominate an outsider - who just happens to be an attractive, articulate reformer who makes Obama look dull and Biden beyond dull (want to argue that? Chew on this and then forget even trying: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain).
And for your sake I hope you don't all keep making the stupid mistake of underestimating the capabilities of this tough woman in an election race. The landscape of Alaska is littered with the corpses of people who did. And Biden (if he lasts, there are already serious rumors Obama is thinking of dropping him) is next.
And as for all the Daily Kos crap some of you are posting (yawn), please, get current. CBS and CNN have already tried to leverage that stuff and are getting nowhere. So your little investigative sandobx here is to put it politely a meaningless joke.
Wade Jarvis wrote:Give me a break. Is that the best you have? That is a stretch. I mean god knows none of us EVER made a decision in the heat of the moment that our parents would not aprove of.
Notice the the pregnant duaghter is ENGAGED to the baby father. I guess you just conveinently forgot to mention that.
If you want to bring family into it we can talk about Obama's mother who got pregnant at the age of 17 and gave birth at 18. Oh yes and what about his father who bailed?
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Since when is manning up to your mistakes and becoming a responsible parent a bad thing? Or is it alright to just say oops I don't want to be punished and have to grow up I am too young I will just have an abortion a better way of taking responsibilty and making a bad situation better.
Wade Jarvis wrote:^^^^ Actually she does not. So far they have all been found to be false. Troopergate for example.
mikeythemars wrote:With all due respect , the ignorant apologetic support for the tax and spend Washington bureaucracy here makes me laugh.
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Or put another way, you all seem to be in a tizzy because McCain threw a curve ball that none of you anticipated and don't have a clue on how to deal with.
Well, welcome your worst nightmare.
Yes, this was supposed to be election the Democrats "couldn't" lose. Oprah has anointed Obama, Bush is unpopular and it's all in the can. Let's go have a beer.
Quote:
But noooooo....suddenly,the opposition doesn't go by the anticipated beaten path playbook (ah, how quickly people forget McCain is a military strategist). Instead, they nominate an outsider - who just happens to be an attractive, articulate reformer who makes Obama look dull and Biden beyond dull (want to argue that? Chew on this and then forget even trying: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain).
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And for your sake I hope you don't all keep making the stupid mistake of underestimating the capabilities of this tough woman in an election race. The landscape of Alaska is littered with the corpses of people who did. And Biden (if he lasts, there are already serious rumors Obama is thinking of dropping him) is next.
Quote:You back-check your facts first.
And as for all the Daily Kos crap some of you are posting (yawn), please, get current. CBS and CNN have already tried to leverage that stuff and are getting nowhere. So your little investigative sandobx here is to put it politely a meaningless joke.
AGuSTiN wrote:
Just because her daughter is doing things a bit backwards doesn't mean that going to school, avoiding sex, getting married THEN having kids isn't still the best order to do things to have the best chances in life.
There are plenty of pregnant teens on both the abstinence AND sex education sides of this fence. One teen does not make a case, no matter who's kid it is.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:AGuSTiN wrote:
Just because her daughter is doing things a bit backwards doesn't mean that going to school, avoiding sex, getting married THEN having kids isn't still the best order to do things to have the best chances in life.
There are plenty of pregnant teens on both the abstinence AND sex education sides of this fence. One teen does not make a case, no matter who's kid it is.
Kids having kids is inappropriate no question about it.
The problem here is, that her daughter's action is now being considered as acceptable and not a "problem." Lack of parenting on Palin's part? Or daughter not being the brightest light bulb? Either way it is not a positive image for teens to embrace.
Wade Jarvis wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:AGuSTiN wrote:
Just because her daughter is doing things a bit backwards doesn't mean that going to school, avoiding sex, getting married THEN having kids isn't still the best order to do things to have the best chances in life.
There are plenty of pregnant teens on both the abstinence AND sex education sides of this fence. One teen does not make a case, no matter who's kid it is.
Kids having kids is inappropriate no question about it.
The problem here is, that her daughter's action is now being considered as acceptable and not a "problem." Lack of parenting on Palin's part? Or daughter not being the brightest light bulb? Either way it is not a positive image for teens to embrace.
How is anyone saying it is acceptable? You must be kidding. It seems to be the most brought up issue against Sarah Palin and it is a choice Sarah did not even make. As I stated before we all have made choices our parents would not condone! Now unlesss you are going to tell us you NEVER had pre-maritial sex then shut up and get off your high horse.
Bad Ace Design wrote:The hypocrisy is mind-boggling, John Stewart puts it best:John Steward is king of making very good, perfectly constructed points, and all in the name of humor. He is not afraid to expose any absurdity. Its no wonder that the fake news show is more trusted than real news shows.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Bad Ace Design wrote:Wade Jarvis wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:AGuSTiN wrote:
Just because her daughter is doing things a bit backwards doesn't mean that going to school, avoiding sex, getting married THEN having kids isn't still the best order to do things to have the best chances in life.
There are plenty of pregnant teens on both the abstinence AND sex education sides of this fence. One teen does not make a case, no matter who's kid it is.
Kids having kids is inappropriate no question about it.
The problem here is, that her daughter's action is now being considered as acceptable and not a "problem." Lack of parenting on Palin's part? Or daughter not being the brightest light bulb? Either way it is not a positive image for teens to embrace.
How is anyone saying it is acceptable? You must be kidding. It seems to be the most brought up issue against Sarah Palin and it is a choice Sarah did not even make. As I stated before we all have made choices our parents would not condone! Now unlesss you are going to tell us you NEVER had pre-maritial sex then shut up and get off your high horse.
Its absolutely amazing.
When its someone people support, talking about teen pregnancy is an entirely different conversation than when it is, oh, say a celebrity.
The hypocrisy is mind-boggling, John Stewart puts it best:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
AGuSTiN wrote:Bad Ace Design wrote:Wade Jarvis wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:AGuSTiN wrote:
Just because her daughter is doing things a bit backwards doesn't mean that going to school, avoiding sex, getting married THEN having kids isn't still the best order to do things to have the best chances in life.
There are plenty of pregnant teens on both the abstinence AND sex education sides of this fence. One teen does not make a case, no matter who's kid it is.
Kids having kids is inappropriate no question about it.
The problem here is, that her daughter's action is now being considered as acceptable and not a "problem." Lack of parenting on Palin's part? Or daughter not being the brightest light bulb? Either way it is not a positive image for teens to embrace.
How is anyone saying it is acceptable? You must be kidding. It seems to be the most brought up issue against Sarah Palin and it is a choice Sarah did not even make. As I stated before we all have made choices our parents would not condone! Now unlesss you are going to tell us you NEVER had pre-maritial sex then shut up and get off your high horse.
Its absolutely amazing.
When its someone people support, talking about teen pregnancy is an entirely different conversation than when it is, oh, say a celebrity.
The hypocrisy is mind-boggling, John Stewart puts it best:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
WTF? I think Wade has said in several different ways it is NOT OK to have a pregnant teen but yet got lumped in with O'Reilly's opinions?
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:More people here need to read your sig Wade.I think everyone has read it, and I'll bet everyone agrees with it... but not everyone will interpret it the same way. Just because you think we need to do one thing to serve our country (i.e. joining the military or propping up our leadership), other people will think we need to do something else (i.e. volunteering at a food bank or voting to put those in power who we believe will best lead this country).
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:
And if she becomes the first Woman president... GREAT.
Chris
OHV notec wrote:Taetsch Z-24 wrote:More people here need to read your sig Wade.I think everyone has read it, and I'll bet everyone agrees with it... but not everyone will interpret it the same way. Just because you think we need to do one thing to serve our country (i.e. joining the military or propping up our leadership), other people will think we need to do something else (i.e. volunteering at a food bank or voting to put those in power who we believe will best lead this country).
Wade Jarvis wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:AGuSTiN wrote:
Just because her daughter is doing things a bit backwards doesn't mean that going to school, avoiding sex, getting married THEN having kids isn't still the best order to do things to have the best chances in life.
There are plenty of pregnant teens on both the abstinence AND sex education sides of this fence. One teen does not make a case, no matter who's kid it is.
Kids having kids is inappropriate no question about it.
The problem here is, that her daughter's action is now being considered as acceptable and not a "problem." Lack of parenting on Palin's part? Or daughter not being the brightest light bulb? Either way it is not a positive image for teens to embrace.
How is anyone saying it is acceptable? You must be kidding. It seems to be the most brought up issue against Sarah Palin and it is a choice Sarah did not even make. As I stated before we all have made choices our parents would not condone! Now unlesss you are going to tell us you NEVER had pre-maritial sex then shut up and get off your high horse.
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As I stated before we all have made choices our parents would not condone! Now unlesss you are going to tell us you NEVER had pre-maritial sex then shut up and get off your high horse.