RaiLS wrote:Just give them compasses with reverse polarity. Then they can goto South America instead of North America. 
Just wondering - case of ignorance here - but how hard is it to get a visa and just do it legally? I have no idea...
I'm not really sure, but enough so that Bush himself thinks it's pretty hard. It was one of his campaign issues the first time he got elected until fellow Republicans shat on his ideas.
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Gonzo (The Long Nosed One) wrote:wanna know how to save lives? Shoot the bastards as they come over. In turn saving Americans who would be victims of gang related crimes. Though we tried that already....the damn extreme left wingers and ACLU yuppies raised hell about the Minutemen though
I thought we already established in this thread that the Minutemen were racist? So says their leader/founder.
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AGuSTiN wrote:I thought we already established in this thread that the Minutemen were racist? So says their leader/founder.
Just a thought, but how can you form an organization whose function is to "detain Mexicans" and
not be racist? I thought that would be a given.
I remember something about Clinton making a public statement that any Cuban refugees would be welcomed in the US, then we got flooded with people who paddled over. Then Clinton said no more, sent a few ships to turn refugees back and the problem was reduced to a managable status.
The solution is to remove the "streets paved with gold" for illegal aliens. There has to be a consequence to being illegal other than getting deported. Counting sand in Arizona, shoveling snow in Alaska, listening to every George Bush speach looped 24 hours a day, some kind of punitive action. Make getting caught as an illegal "not worth the risk".
John Wilken
2002 Cavalier
2.2 Vin code 4
Auto
Wow man, you're quite the racist yourself.
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ALLL this bitching about illegal immigrants and look, a worker shortage. Crops are going to go unpicked and rot in the highest producing argicultural region in the United States.
A shining example of why stopping the flow of illegals without a plan to get them here legally is the HEIGHT of shortsidedness and idiocy.
I don't like Bush, but I support his push to get this done 200%.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/news/ci_3451871
Make a note that part of the reason why their is a shortage is because of demand from OTHER industries, like construction. Sounds like us Americans are the problem, too proud to work hard labor at jobs that pay $11-$14 an hour, which is good pay in this region.
Idiocy. Complete, F'n idiocy. Blaming the wrong people.
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/\/\/\ I thought those were called "work visas". I'm all for legal immigration, even for short-term crop picking. I'm even for full immigration for anyone who wants to come to the US. My problem is that people who run across the border illegally have to remain on the lamb and can't get a real job, pay taxes, vote, etc.
I've heard that because of Canadian regulations, there are many Canadian doctors who spend 3-6 months in the US on a work visa, where they can earn as much as they want. What's the diff between this or a seasonal crop picker, other than the paycheck?
John Wilken
2002 Cavalier
2.2 Vin code 4
Auto
I'm Mexican. I live in the border city of Tijuana and I've never, ever seen an organization giving maps to people that want to cross the border illegally. It's just stupid, why would our government form an organization to aid illegal immigration? Do you really think our government would do that? **** no, the government wouldn't want to lose those workers and tax-payers.
[q]What if terrorists get a hold of these maps and use them to enter the country illegally yet safely?[/q]
Dude... have you ever been to the Mexican border? For those of us who cross the border legally with turist visas we have to form in line and wait for an hour or two(depending on our luck) before crossing the border. Luckily I have a sentri pass now and it takes only minutes for me to cross.
(I'm studying at an American college btw). Between our countries there are two barriers, both of them go from to the sea to God knows how far away in the desert, one is electrified. Do you really think a terrorist would fancy trying to cross the US-Mex border? **** no. In the border with Canada, on the other hand there is nothing afaik, and it is filled with Middle easterns, at least the cities I visited were filled with Middle easterns. The wife of my host, in fact comes from the Middle east. In Mexico there are very few Middle easterns most of which come from Lebanon and are Catholic. Few people practice Islam and they live mostly in the south state of Chiapas.
Bottom line: I wouldn't really worry about terrorists using Mexico to get to the US. But hey, it's better to be prepared for anything. I, for one don't give a damn what the Americans do to protect their border. It's like, I would want to know who comes into my house and for what purpose.
-Chris
