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so while that option is THERE, it is not practical. and thats my point hybrids are EXTREMELY practical. bikes for alot of people are not.
Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:bikes can be as practical as anything else, all excuses aside...
theres practical ways to address things, however most never want to move out the comfort zone they are already accustomed to. anything else really is merely an excuse.
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:I think that Canada should halt licensing of future oil contracts and start filling our OWN needs first. I dunno if you the business side of it UHS (I dub thee!!!! ) but Canada fills oil contracts with the US/other countries first, and we get the dregs and stuck with the bill as well.
And, well, leave it to canucks to deliver a little bit of pro-active thought to a discussion
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so while that option is THERE, it is not practical. and thats my point hybrids are EXTREMELY practical. bikes for alot of people are not.
bikes can be as practical as anything else, all excuses aside...
15 miles here, and there to work.... find work closer....
40 miles to school, perhaps move closer to school. or live on campus if need be...
theres practical ways to address things, however most never want to move out the comfort zone they are already accustomed to. anything else really is merely an excuse.
it would have been a 68 mile commute from where my parents lived in md, near dc and va to towson unversity....
i moved, simple as that. if your campus doesnt have a dorm, you can still rent apartments with something closer... and if its a college there, you can find work AT or NEAR the college to support you living on your own.
its just a part of growing up anyways...
Nathaniel wrote:Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:Quote:
so while that option is THERE, it is not practical. and thats my point hybrids are EXTREMELY practical. bikes for alot of people are not.
bikes can be as practical as anything else, all excuses aside...
15 miles here, and there to work.... find work closer....
40 miles to school, perhaps move closer to school. or live on campus if need be...
theres practical ways to address things, however most never want to move out the comfort zone they are already accustomed to. anything else really is merely an excuse.
it would have been a 68 mile commute from where my parents lived in md, near dc and va to towson unversity....
i moved, simple as that. if your campus doesnt have a dorm, you can still rent apartments with something closer... and if its a college there, you can find work AT or NEAR the college to support you living on your own.
its just a part of growing up anyways...
no its not practical.
if i move closer to school, im farther from work.
it would be completely impractical for me to change jobs, since i have been at my job for 6+ years as a IT manager which is basically un heard of especially since i am STILL in college.
and if i got a diff job i would not make as much as i do now, nor have the flexibility.
so doing as you say, would make my life WORSE and i would actually have LESS money.
yes i could do it, but liek i said it is impractical for my situation. if i coudl i would
but that is why im trying my hardest to get enough money to buy a hybrid and why i am makign a full cockpit recumbent bike to commute.
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i'm sure if your schools area is worth anything, you can find a similar job near a college that deals in the same stuff, if not working FOR the college.
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its just proof that nature isnt as high as you deem it on the forums, in reality.
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even finding a place in between the two points would be more beneficial....
however if by chance, and its funny it always is, your job is on the other direction from your house if your house is the mid point between school and work, and by chance you cant find ANY job that pays similar in a college town, which is unlikley----
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theres still no reason you cant buy a huffy from walmart and ride from house to work.
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and really, you dont NEED a recumbent bike, so theres really no need for waiting. people have ridden uprights for miles for years..... lance armstrong can do it....
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its just more "excuses" on why it hasnt been done yet
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Honestly, until there is a way to extract hydrogen in extremely high quantity, hydrogen powered vehicles will not be viable. I can see electric vehicles becoming more of a reality before hydrogen.
Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
Jbody2nr wrote:GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Honestly, until there is a way to extract hydrogen in extremely high quantity, hydrogen powered vehicles will not be viable. I can see electric vehicles becoming more of a reality before hydrogen.
There is a method for extracting enough hydrogen to power a car for 300-400 mile range. I saw it in a video in my biology class in college. Some german used some type of material that absorbs hydrogen like a sponge and it will hold enough pure hydrogen to power a car a good amount of time. It just needs to be mass produced and the bugs worked out thats all.
Sorry no links.
Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Well, for now, I'll venture this:
- Don't jump on any one person's back, we all consume, so we're all at fault.
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oh nice one there, because i shoudl easily be able to compete with a professional cyclist that has been training for YEARS and is a world champion... RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT
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please i beg u to name an excuse for me. every action i am making i am making in efforts to as quickly as possible become as efficient as possible in MANY ways.
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getting to work quicker= allows me to work more hours which equals more money in my pay check, quickening my efforts to a afv/hybrid and allowing me to buy supplies quicker for the bent. also giving more time to hasten the build process of the bent. leading to riding my bent every day for my work commute.
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and each step of the way requires sacrafices. not doing just what is convenient.
Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Well, for now, I'll venture this:
- Don't jump on any one person's back, we all consume, so we're all at fault.
thats the point that i made in the rodimus prime gets 37mpg gallon on an untuned car post ...
however nathaniel is always "in the process", whether its saving meat/animals from a cleaver, or making a recumbent bike...
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fact is and my main point here, he doesnt NEED a recumbent bike, thats a WANT... if he was as "captain planet" minded as he gets on others in various other posts on hybrids and saving the earth and animals etc...
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then he simply would be riding a bike to work... thats his plan after the build anyways....... well for the time being, and since he has a good job, a simple bike would get the job done, and be practical for him all this past summer and decent months of the year.
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building a recumbent bike isnt gonna help him be any safer on the roads he travels now than it would with an upright. its still gonna be a small bike on the same road with the same cars... hes gonna travel close the same speeds as an upright bike as well, so it will be no quicker than when he finishes the bike or if he had an upright. as it stands uprights have more potential to be faster than a recumbent due to the smaller less bulkier sizes of them.
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so if he really was gonna do something about the whole ordeal it would have been done by now. it doesnt rain 100% of the time, and he could be riding to work this whole past summer on any bike... point being it DOESNT need to be a recumbent. thats a luxurious WANT.... however he keeps bringin up in most all his "eco posts" about how hes building one so he can do this and that...
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building the bike, thats great, and like i said in the past i applaud him, however if he cared as much as his posts dictates 90% of the time, he would have done something by now.
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to quote a busta rhymes album about the bike ordeal.
"F the yappin, stay true to it, do it" or in the words of larry the cable guy, GIT R DONNNNE!
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oh nice one there, because i shoudl easily be able to compete with a professional cyclist that has been training for YEARS and is a world champion... RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT
oy vey...the force is weak in this one......no one said you were to COMPETE with him, its the fact that if anyone can ride an upright, then really you dont NEED a recumbent bike.... not anything about that you can get the same times and speeds he does.... use your brain pokey
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please i beg u to name an excuse for me. every action i am making i am making in efforts to as quickly as possible become as efficient as possible in MANY ways.
sure not a problem...
1) you say you wont do the ride to work on a bike until you build a recumbent bike your building
2) then you also say
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getting to work quicker= allows me to work more hours which equals more money in my pay check, quickening my efforts to a afv/hybrid and allowing me to buy supplies quicker for the bent. also giving more time to hasten the build process of the bent. leading to riding my bent every day for my work commute.
LOGICAL CONCLUSION....so when you build the bike, you will be getting work slower than you will with a car anyways...so either way, you will be getting to work slower, and still driving a gas guzzling cavalier to class(in comparison to a hybrid)
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it would pretty much make more sense to simply ditch the bike idea, sell the cav, and then buy a hybrid.....maximize all three realms.
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so that way you ride to work efficiently, to school, and anywhere else you go long or short distance.
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and yes i do know how those living situations with mother and grandparents are. i went through it in college myself. my greatgrandmother lived with us from 1988 when her husband died, until her death in 2003. hence the reason i passed on admissions to Virginia Tech, Darthmouth, WV university, and univ of south carolina as the distance was too far from them.... i know how it was to rush home right after 3 hours of football, or getting off the bus comming back from Cornell or Bucknell in the snow, cold, wet, and then driving to home or a hospital a hour away to make sure things were fine, then back to school....
reality is, when you get that phone call one day telling you to get home fast, or get to the hospital for the last 10 minutes of someones life, a bike isnt gonna do crap if you happen to be at work. however the hybrid car would seem to be the better option overall.
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less pollution, same car highway road speeds, less gas used overall, and now they come with human body friendly front ends and side panels so if you happen to hit an animal, its less likely to do AS MUCH damage, and no thats not thrown in there as a joke...
you spoke on all the incentives, prices etc...
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and for someone telling others they know nothing about something, you couldnt even figure out that i was making the point of lance storm rides an upright, not comparing your performance with his. i know he;d dominate you.... even lance eats meat
falnfenix(gosh, i am a GIRL!) wrote:Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:bikes can be as practical as anything else, all excuses aside...
theres practical ways to address things, however most never want to move out the comfort zone they are already accustomed to. anything else really is merely an excuse.
yaay art got it.
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Biofuels Are Promising but Would Require a Major Shift
Biofuel or biomass energy are formal names for fuel created from stuff that can be grown. The most common forms of biofuel are ethanol (often derived from corn) and biodiesel (often derived from soy). Creative alternative energy folks have also used everything from livestock droppings to heather, and look to perennial crops like switchgrass and poplar trees as low maintenance sources. Just imagine a society fueled with clean, renewable, locally grown fuel.
In addition to providing a renewable source of energy for our transportation needs, and thus reducing greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil, biofuels could provide tens of millions of dollars of new income for American farmers and rural communities.
Biodiesel Benefits
Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine
Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in various percentages with petroleum diesel
Biodiesel can be stored and transported anywhere that petroleum diesel is stored (with little or no damage in the event of a spill). It’s biodegradable and non-toxic.
Engines running biodiesel have similar fuel mileage to engines on diesel fuel.
On the negative side, biodiesel produces more nitrous oxide, which contributes to smog. In addition, pure biodiesel does not flow as well as petroleum diesel in cold temperatures, so it could result in increased engine clogs.
Ethanol Benefits
Up to a 10 percent blend of ethanol is already covered under warranty of every auto manufacturer
A blend with 85 percent ethanol burns in an extremely clean and complete manner
E85 is already running on millions of so-called E85 flexible cars in the U.S. These cars, primarily used in corporate and government fleets, are manufactured by DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM and Mercedes. Most of the E85 flexible cars are wagons and pick-ups.
The biggest drawback with high-ethanol blends today is that they are not widely available. There are approximately 200 refueling stations across the U.S.
Major Shift Required
A grow-your-own approach to fueling our cars and trucks sounds very enticing. A major shift to biofuels could put our farmers to work, greatly reduce greenhouse emissions, and free us from dependence on the Middle East. A shift to a biofuel infrastructure would not happen overnight. It would require a major shift in our collective political will.
This potential shift also raises serious concerns about land use, pesticide use, and genetically modified crops, as well as difficult economic questions about the net costs of using land for food production versus energy production.
Hybrid cars by definition use more than one source to power a car. As a result, hybrids are often referred to as a bridge technology between currently available technologies and promising future approaches, such as hydrogen fuel cells. As carmakers continue to improve gas and diesel engines, and experiment with hybridization, perhaps biofuels will be brought into the mix—but only if oil becomes more scarce, more costly to produce and import, and even more obviously destructive to the environment.
Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:MikeGT wrote:I like to idea behind them for the obvious reason. but do you REALLY have to make them look so ugly? i know it may be a bit hard to make a hybrid to look like corvette, but come on..
408 horsepower
437 miles to a 13.7 gallon tank which equals 31.8 MPG
0-60 in about 4 seconds....
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/volta.html
Jbody2nr wrote:GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Honestly, until there is a way to extract hydrogen in extremely high quantity, hydrogen powered vehicles will not be viable. I can see electric vehicles becoming more of a reality before hydrogen.
There is a method for extracting enough hydrogen to power a car for 300-400 mile range. I saw it in a video in my biology class in college. Some german used some type of material that absorbs hydrogen like a sponge and it will hold enough pure hydrogen to power a car a good amount of time. It just needs to be mass produced and the bugs worked out thats all.
Sorry no links.