BigBob wrote:Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:
People, get a grip! Just because it pushes your buttons doesn't mean it actually has any measurable effect on seven year-olds.
Yeah, because something similar had no effect on these children:
And NO, I'm not comparing Obama to Hitler. I'm simply pointing out how easily a childs mind can be warped.
Paul Siebert wrote:Someone said that we should respect the president and support him. I can't respect a president that does not respect our nations flag. If you want to know what I'm talking about I'll try to find a video of Obama and you can see what I'm talking about.
BlackEco wrote:Ohhhh this type of thing has never happened before .... All praise King George!
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:BlackEco wrote:Ohhhh this type of thing has never happened before .... All praise King George!
Wow.
And nobody sees nothing wrong with this worshiping?
Hilarious.
BigBob wrote:Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:
People, get a grip! Just because it pushes your buttons doesn't mean it actually has any measurable effect on seven year-olds.
Yeah, because something similar had no effect on these children:
And NO, I'm not comparing Obama to Hitler. I'm simply pointing out how easily a childs mind can be warped.
Paul Siebert wrote:Wish I could figure out how to edit posts.Click Here
Paul Siebert wrote:Didn't mean to start any bickering here, but I guess this is why you guys call it the WAR FORUM.Welcome. This should help give you a reasonable understanding of this place.
sndsgood wrote:it used to be that you respected your elders and those in authority etc. but there came a time a little while back that parents started believing their kids were always right and it was the teachers that wre wrong, little johnny got a c on his test, it had nothing to do with jonny staying up late and playing nintentdo and not studying for it, it was the teachers fault for making the test to hard. now its to the point where those people are getting out in society and they have no respect for anyone because it was taught to them that they were always right and it was everyone else who was wrong. even though i disagree with obama, its good to see this. as long as its done in the proper way.
sndsgood wrote:it used to be that you respected your elders and those in authority etc. but there came a time a little while back that parents started believing their kids were always right and it was the teachers that wre wrong, little johnny got a c on his test, it had nothing to do with jonny staying up late and playing nintentdo and not studying for it, it was the teachers fault for making the test to hard. now its to the point where those people are getting out in society and they have no respect for anyone because it was taught to them that they were always right and it was everyone else who was wrong. even though i disagree with obama, its good to see this. as long as its done in the proper way.
Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Paul Siebert wrote:Wish I could figure out how to edit posts.Click Here
Paul Siebert wrote:Didn't mean to start any bickering here, but I guess this is why you guys call it the WAR FORUM.Welcome. This should help give you a reasonable understanding of this place.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:sndsgood wrote:it used to be that you respected your elders and those in authority etc. but there came a time a little while back that parents started believing their kids were always right and it was the teachers that wre wrong, little johnny got a c on his test, it had nothing to do with jonny staying up late and playing nintentdo and not studying for it, it was the teachers fault for making the test to hard. now its to the point where those people are getting out in society and they have no respect for anyone because it was taught to them that they were always right and it was everyone else who was wrong. even though i disagree with obama, its good to see this. as long as its done in the proper way.
Wouldn't you say that it may be even further back? Before the Nintendo era... think hippies, Nixon, and the protests of Vietnam? Could it be that era caused a major disloyalty to authority/political figures in recent times?
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:sndsgood wrote:it used to be that you respected your elders and those in authority etc. but there came a time a little while back that parents started believing their kids were always right and it was the teachers that wre wrong, little johnny got a c on his test, it had nothing to do with jonny staying up late and playing nintentdo and not studying for it, it was the teachers fault for making the test to hard. now its to the point where those people are getting out in society and they have no respect for anyone because it was taught to them that they were always right and it was everyone else who was wrong. even though i disagree with obama, its good to see this. as long as its done in the proper way.
Wouldn't you say that it may be even further back? Before the Nintendo era... think hippies, Nixon, and the protests of Vietnam? Could it be that era caused a major disloyalty to authority/political figures in recent times?
Torres wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:sndsgood wrote:it used to be that you respected your elders and those in authority etc. but there came a time a little while back that parents started believing their kids were always right and it was the teachers that wre wrong, little johnny got a c on his test, it had nothing to do with jonny staying up late and playing nintentdo and not studying for it, it was the teachers fault for making the test to hard. now its to the point where those people are getting out in society and they have no respect for anyone because it was taught to them that they were always right and it was everyone else who was wrong. even though i disagree with obama, its good to see this. as long as its done in the proper way.
Wouldn't you say that it may be even further back? Before the Nintendo era... think hippies, Nixon, and the protests of Vietnam? Could it be that era caused a major disloyalty to authority/political figures in recent times?
I would have to disagree, I see where you are coming from but when I was growing up, even when I was in high school (me growing up was the post nintendo era, I am only 23) we were taught to respect higher authority, Presidaent, cops etc and I was raised in the Bronx, in one of the most ghetto messed up neighborhoods in the U.S.
ITs the new era that has no respect, I worked in a high school for almost 2 and an Elementary school for 1 so I saw 1st hand how different these kids are.
When I was growing up you had maybe 1-3 kids who were the bad apples in school and were just bad asses to anyone who approached them, now it seemed that almost have the student body both in Elementary and High School would not respect authority.
Ive seen cops in the school being punched, kicked, spit on...teachers hit and abused...wtf is happening?
Also growing up we were taught your teacher is your parent when your parents are not around and they are to be respected like they are your mom and dad....I dont know maybe im old school
Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Personally, I don't think the school should be teaching kids to praise any specific person or group in office.
They should be taught songs about the country, but they are essentially setting up a bias by teaching the children to praise the person.
It's a different thing to teach respect for the office than it is to teach praise to the man.
Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Nah. Missing the point. Nothing wrong with mentioning who the Leader of the Free World is at the time of the song. By the time these kids are politically aware, they'll likely have seen several more presidents, and won't be "branded" with idolatry of this one.
Your fears of insiduous programming are unfounded...this is not new, and has happened before, many times, with far less hand-wringing. In a simpler world, we just didn't get so excited over such truly forgettable things.