Such words from some one who has never taken the oath.
I am a "Illiterate SOB" but, if your game, you can try a fight.
Game?
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
"Yes, nothing is better then for the tax payers to fund private industries that earn NET on avg $30-40 billions per qrt of record profit.
Simply unbelievable."
considering how this country would completly shut down and go into complete caos if we had no oil then i have no problem with goverment helping out.
your right oil companies do net billions of dollars in profit, but they also spend waaaayyyyy more getting that profit. making say 10 billion in profit when you spent 100 billion to get that profit is no diffrent then my company making 1 million in profit from spending 10 billion. both equal about 10% profit.
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sndsgood wrote:"Yes, nothing is better then for the tax payers to fund private industries that earn NET on avg $30-40 billions per qrt of record profit.
Simply unbelievable."
considering how this country would completly shut down and go into complete caos if we had no oil then i have no problem with goverment helping out.
your right oil companies do net billions of dollars in profit, but they also spend waaaayyyyy more getting that profit. making say 10 billion in profit when you spent 100 billion to get that profit is no diffrent then my company making 1 million in profit from spending 10 billion. both equal about 10% profit.
Yes, you are indeed correct that if oil production gets cut off, chaos would happen immediately. But oil exploration cost way under (a) Billion dollars and that's with the costlier under water exploration($10-$200millions). The amount of profit that the oil industries produces, is more than enough to explore on their very own, it is enough to explore on the moon or Mars. lol j/k
We don't need to fund them period, funding them is like funding Bill Gates so he can buy a Bugatti to get to work quicker, you know since we use his O/S. Much how we didn't like the funding of a failed GM, having a double standard and accepting to fund the powerful (by capital) oil industry is just as big of mistake, if not worse. And worse just because they already have money to explore.
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Taetsch Z-24 wrote:Such words from some one who has never taken the oath.
I am a "Illiterate SOB" but, if your game, you can try a fight.
Game?
Chris
ROFL I completely died reading this.
You are failing to spell "purple" right. He is correct when he calls you out on it. How can someone take any point you make seriously or even remotely informed when you have a hard time grasping our own language. It's further infuriating when you back someone up in a discussion, but in truth you fail to understand what it is your actually representing. FOX puts this idea in your head that Barack is a socialist looking to ruin the "Good Ole American Way Of Life".. AND you all eat it up.
NOW back on topic
G&S just posted record profits. Most financial firms are looking up...The economy still has more downturns to come, BUT you don;'t pop out of a recession like this in 6 months..... Give it time people.
My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
Um..... I can honestly say that the last time I watched to news was over 2 months ago.
I don't have cable.
Anyone that wants to make all people pay for each others heath care is a socialist. Anyone that calls illegal's "Undocumented Citizens" is a socialist.
And WTF is this I heard (from people at work, not the news) of osoma bowing to some china man?
Spelling has never been my strong point. So, if "calling me out on it" makes you all feel better, go for it. I apologize for doing so, I know it can be frustrating.
I'm afraid with time, the inflation rate will kill this nation.
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
As long as we are talking about servace men...
Quote:
UNBELIEVABLE PRESIDENT?
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT EVER MADE BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL LET ALONE BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THIS GUY IS OUR "COMMANDER IN CHIEF". HE IS A DISGRACE.
HERE IS HIS RESPONSE WHEN HE BACKED OFF FROM HIS DECISION TO LET
THE MILITARY PAY FOR THEIR WAR INJURIES.
Bad press, including major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon
Stewart, led to President Obama abandoning his proposal to require
veterans carry private health insurance to cover the estimated $540
million annual cost to the federal government of treatment for injuries
to military personnel received during their tours on active duty. The
President admitted that he was puzzled by the magnitude of the
opposition to his proposal.
"Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobody
made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the
risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It
doesn't compute…" "I thought these were people who were proud to
sacrifice for their country, "Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for
blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in
its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to
try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the
selfishness of some of my fellow Americans."
Please pass this on to every one including every vet and their families whom you know.
How in the world did a person with this mindset become our
leader? I didn't vote for him!!!
REMEMBER THIS STATEMENT... "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had
to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the
costs of their choice?
Remind everyone over and over how this
man thinks, while he bows to the Saudi Arabian king.
Thoughts?
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
(tabs) wrote:first off....the jobless claims are down because people have run out of unemployment since the economy has been down so long. just because there are less claims being filed doesnt mean that more people are being hired. this is just typical spin.
Not to mention people like me that have been out of a job for months, but never filed for unemployment.
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:As long as we are talking about servace men...
Quote:
UNBELIEVABLE PRESIDENT?
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT EVER MADE BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL LET ALONE BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THIS GUY IS OUR "COMMANDER IN CHIEF". HE IS A DISGRACE.
HERE IS HIS RESPONSE WHEN HE BACKED OFF FROM HIS DECISION TO LET
THE MILITARY PAY FOR THEIR WAR INJURIES.
Bad press, including major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon
Stewart, led to President Obama abandoning his proposal to require
veterans carry private health insurance to cover the estimated $540
million annual cost to the federal government of treatment for injuries
to military personnel received during their tours on active duty. The
President admitted that he was puzzled by the magnitude of the
opposition to his proposal.
"Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobody
made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the
risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It
doesn't compute…" "I thought these were people who were proud to
sacrifice for their country, "Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for
blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in
its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to
try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the
selfishness of some of my fellow Americans."
Please pass this on to every one including every vet and their families whom you know.
How in the world did a person with this mindset become our
leader? I didn't vote for him!!!
REMEMBER THIS STATEMENT... "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had
to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the
costs of their choice?
Remind everyone over and over how this
man thinks, while he bows to the Saudi Arabian king.
Thoughts?
Chris
Not negating this, but I would like to see exerpt of this from a reliable news source, not from chain letter.
As for bowing to Saudi Arabia King. Sorry to inform you, but since the the turn of 20th century the US kisses their ass as they have us and the world by the balls.
THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT ONE.
AND yet non bowed to them.
Hmm
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Since you are alive to type this, do you have a Purple Heart?
(We know you don't have one since you're stupid enough to say war is fun)
No... no wonder you say war is fun. The day you get a bullet between your eyes by Al Qaeda, then tell me how much fun it is. I'm dieing to know, no pun intended of course.
Do you understand now? Jackass thinks war is like playing with G.I. JOE.
Funs over when you're brought back in a coffin with an American flag draped over it, fool.
first off.....if the man enjoys war, then thats his prerogative. hes experienced it, you havent. its not some weird condition--its just a part of human nature. if he, and people like him, didnt enjoy it--or at the very least tolerate and participate in it--then your condescending ass wouldnt even be here.
also....if you are going to call someone an illiterate sob, perhaps you should also check your own abilities. the bolded word above (dieing) means you are in the process of using a die. "dying" is the word you were looking for. and, just for future reference, the present tense form of the word dye is spelled dyeing.
here is a cute definition from the urban dictionary
Quote:
1. dieing
A common misspelling of dying that that only dumbasses use.
so, for a recap, we have:
dying--meaning death
dyeing--coloring something
dieing--using a die
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Yes, nothing is better then for the tax payers to fund private industries that earn NET on avg $30-40 billions per qrt of record profit.
Simply unbelievable.
oil companies dont make that much on average, and net isnt profit. its happened a few times, most recently when we were paying $5 a gallon. while i dont support the government funding private industries like that, you need to not exaggerate the problem just to try and win over uninformed readers.
Shadowfire wrote:(tabs) wrote:first off....the jobless claims are down because people have run out of unemployment since the economy has been down so long. just because there are less claims being filed doesnt mean that more people are being hired. this is just typical spin.
Not to mention people like me that have been out of a job for months, but never filed for unemployment.
i'm sorry sir, but nothing you said is true. the msm and obama arent reporting you, so you just dont exist. sorry about your luck!
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(tabs) wrote:
first off.....if the man enjoys war, then thats his prerogative.
Yes, some have murderer/killer mentality. Jeffrey Dahmer had the same prerogative, difference here is, one was paid for it, the other was considered crazy.
Just don't use tax money for your "killer fun" or bitch about other useless expense.
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if he, and people like him, didnt enjoy it--or at the very least tolerate and participate in it--then your condescending ass wouldnt even be here.
My "condescending ass" is here speaking because what our forefather did, and with the courts following laws, not what military did/do. The last time this country was threatened by a take over, we were enemies with the Brits. Anything after that, especially with 20th 21st century wars, it was mostly about business and the threatening of globalization or private interests. So please take lame and BS excuse of a tactic that recruiters tell you and shove it where the shine doesn't shine.
Quote:
also....if you are going to call someone an illiterate sob, perhaps you should also check your own abilities. the bolded word above (dieing) means you are in the process of using a die. "dying" is the word you were looking for. and, just for future reference, the present tense form of the word dye is spelled dyeing.
And yet another jackass that follows hypocrisy, like man needs to breath. Hey grammar Nazi, for starters: The day that you can properly start a sentence with a lower case letter, you'll have room to talk.
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oil companies dont make that much on net. its happened a few times, most recently when we were paying $5 a gallon. while i dont support the government funding private industries like that, you need to not exaggerate the problem just to try and win over uninformed readers.
I'm not trying to win anybody, I could a give flying f-uck if I win/loose any of you. To some people, they don't like it when you tell it how it is, or rattle their cage and put things in perspective. Which is why I'm getting haters by the second; and I'm loving it. Besides, if any of you have any doubts, look it up yourself.
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wow....back on the .org just in time to see your post. so, here goes....
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Quote:
also....if you are going to call someone an illiterate sob, perhaps you should also check your own abilities. the bolded word above (dieing) means you are in the process of using a die. "dying" is the word you were looking for. and, just for future reference, the present tense form of the word dye is spelled dyeing.
And yet another jackass that follows hypocrisy, like man needs to breath. Hey grammar Nazi, for starters: The day that you can properly start a sentence with a lower case letter, you'll have room to talk.
hahaha. the only thing i dont do is use apostrophes (unless its definition means two things based on the apostrophe. then it's a different ball game) or capital letters. everything else is spelled correctly and uses proper grammar. the difference is that it's a conscious decision, not one borne out of stupidity or ignorance.
also, (and this is just to piss you off but it's true nonetheless) you CAN start a sentence with a lowercase letter! oh, thats right....! on rare occasions when your sentence begins with a slang term or proper noun that begins with a lowercase letter, it's allowable, although not advisable, to use it. "eBay is a great website!" would be used properly. but what do i know...im only finishing a communications master's degree.
now, go ahead and try to dissect this post and tell me exactly how im wrong again. even though im not, i am sure i will enjoy your attempt anyway.
(tabs) wrote:
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Quote:
also....if you are going to call someone an illiterate sob, perhaps you should also check your own abilities. the bolded word above (dieing) means you are in the process of using a die. "dying" is the word you were looking for. and, just for future reference, the present tense form of the word dye is spelled dyeing.
And yet another jackass that follows hypocrisy, like man needs to breath. Hey grammar Nazi, for starters: The day that you can properly start a sentence with a lower case letter, you'll have room to talk.
hahaha. the only thing i dont do is use apostrophes (unless its definition means two things based on the apostrophe. then it's a different ball game) or capital letters. everything else is spelled correctly and uses proper grammar. the difference is that it's a conscious decision, not one borne out of stupidity or ignorance.
also, (and this is just to piss you off but it's true nonetheless) you CAN start a sentence with a lowercase letter! oh, thats right....! on rare occasions when your sentence begins with a slang term or proper noun that begins with a lowercase letter, it's allowable, although not advisable, to use it. "eBay is a great website!" would be used properly. but what do i know...im only finishing a communications master's degree.
now, go ahead and try to dissect this post and tell me exactly how im wrong again. even though im not, i am sure i will enjoy your attempt anyway.
I don't need to, you've also proved my point, so I rest my case. Oh the hypocrisy that comes out of anger, huh?
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THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT ONE.
Are things really that bliss full down in FL?
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Yes, some have murderer/killer mentality. Jeffrey Dahmer had the same prerogative, difference here is, one was paid for it, the other was considered crazy.
Just don't use tax money for your "killer fun" or bitch about other useless expense.
That's Every Marine I have meet, you realize to do that sort of a job, ya kinda need it.
Your going to get a wake up call some day.... Things 'out there' are not as well off as you want to believe.
Ive done things so you and your family can sleep safe, go to work and not have to wonder if a CHILD is going to blow them selves up, as they do in Israeli.
But, I grow tired of speaking to you, and people like you. I say let @!#$ go how you want it. when it hits the fan, My Oath will still hold true, even though you think badly of myself and people like me.
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:sndsgood wrote:"Yes, nothing is better then for the tax payers to fund private industries that earn NET on avg $30-40 billions per qrt of record profit.
Simply unbelievable."
considering how this country would completly shut down and go into complete caos if we had no oil then i have no problem with goverment helping out.
your right oil companies do net billions of dollars in profit, but they also spend waaaayyyyy more getting that profit. making say 10 billion in profit when you spent 100 billion to get that profit is no diffrent then my company making 1 million in profit from spending 10 billion. both equal about 10% profit.
Yes, you are indeed correct that if oil production gets cut off, chaos would happen immediately. But oil exploration cost way under (a) Billion dollars and that's with the costlier under water exploration($10-$200millions). The amount of profit that the oil industries produces, is more than enough to explore on their very own, it is enough to explore on the moon or Mars. lol j/k
We don't need to fund them period, funding them is like funding Bill Gates so he can buy a Bugatti to get to work quicker, you know since we use his O/S. Much how we didn't like the funding of a failed GM, having a double standard and accepting to fund the powerful (by capital) oil industry is just as big of mistake, if not worse. And worse just because they already have money to explore.
it happens with almost all business out there, states cut companies tax breaks to come move into their state. the us helps out to try and keep companies in the coutry etc etc etc. i didnt care for funding gm because your funding a business, if gm goes under we can still buy cars. we pretty much buy all of our oil from other countries. so we are complelty reliant on someone else to keep our country intact, i dont mind our goverment funding some reasearch, finding out where our oil is and keeping tabs on it. as for what oil companies can fund, does anyone know what percentage of profit oil companies make every year. everyone keeps spouting off about billions of billions of profit, but its never taken into account of what percentage is profit versus money spent. for instance. microsoft made 15billion in revenue from 60 billion of earnings. that seems like a good percentage 25% right? i had thought with the oil companies it was in the 10% range. which would mean its microsoft screwing over the man versus the oil companies. and im sure microsoft gets a big tax break for making its home in silicon valley.
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How many of those homes are being sold at a huge loss to prevent foreclosure? Around me homes are selling for up to a 1/4 of their assesed value because people just want to avoid a foreclosure on their record.
Also things are turning around and so much better that I just got laid off again due to.......you guessed it "reduction in workforce" due to a lack of work. there is not @!#$ happening around me that is not directly supported in some way by the federal government.
Mi. unemployment rate went up again. We are now at 15.6% (as of Julys numbers) and many like me will probably not factor into that list as I no longer qualify for unemployment.
house prices are getting inflated again and thats a good thing? sure, next thing you know the govt will force banks to hand out risky loans on over priced houses and then the economy will be fixed!!!
oh wait, thats what got us here in the first place.
Havent been on in a while, but I was reading this and thought I would ask the big question......
why is everyone afraid of socialism? I would vote for a socialist president in a heartbeat (not democrats, from the actual socialist party). Most of Europe is socialist, and people aren't necessarily any worse off than we are here. I know it will never happen, but IMO the real socialist party would do a better job than both our conservative @*faces and the democrats. Since we pretty much only have 2 choices, id rather side with the democrats and get taxed more than side with people who actually want to push a religious agenda in our public schools... among other things.
btw, we all know the only real way to fix out deficit is to RAISE taxes. I wouldnt mind giving away half of my paycheck to the government if that meant I had free health care, subsidized housing, fuel, cars, etc.. And most importantly, that meant our economy as a country(not as an individual) would head in the right direction.
if you like it..
FU-KING MOVE
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
Orlandomon wrote:
why is everyone afraid of socialism? I wouldnt mind giving away half of my paycheck to the government if that meant I had free health care, subsidized housing, fuel, cars, etc.. And most importantly, that meant our economy as a country(not as an individual) would head in the right direction.
while you may not mind it, most americans DO have a problem giving away most of their money so their neighbors can sit on their asses and get handouts from the govt. that is NOT what our country was founded on, and it is NOT where the majority of us want to go.
furthermore....why in the hell do you think the govt would supply those things you mentioned in a timely, proper manner? they cant run the programs they have now effectively. do you think that a switch to socialism would somehow magically make the bureaucracy better? no--it would only make it worse because once you are in a system like that, people have no motivation to do a good job. they get the same amount for their work whether they do a good job or not.
Orlandomon wrote:btw, we all know the only real way to fix out deficit is to RAISE taxes.
no....the way to get out of a deficit is to CUT all of the fat out of a budget. and the more socialistic a nation, the more fat they have. if/when the govt raises taxes, all they do is spend exponentially more than they take in. doing this in a recession only puts you into it further