spoiler wrote:Howard Gardner thinks there are different types of intelligence.
[ion wrote: C2]Simply because he posts information from another source does not mean he hasn't reviewed, understood and agreed with it...
Quiklilcav wrote:I agree with a lot of what you said. Definitely there is a big difference between knowledge and intelligence. The difference is that intelligence is the ability to apply what you know, using reason and original thought, to expand your knowledge. A truly intelligent person learns not only by what someone teaches them, but also by what they can teach themselves. Knowledge is, for the most part, simple memorization.
Quiklilcav wrote:
As far as education helping or not, it depends on the style of teaching. As your example with the engine, they need to be able to understand and explain why things work, or mean what they do, etc., and I don't believe the current main stream educational system does that. Too much practice, memorization, and preparing for a test, that does nothing but see if you remember what your teacher taught you. Where I really believe our educational system is failing is in it's lack of stimulating the students' creativity in logical reason, and encouraging them to work things out for themselves, and to accept failure as part of the learning process. I'm sick of this pansy-ass sh!t about "no one loses, we're all winners". This does nothing for a persons character, or drive to better themselves. If you're always feeling great about what you did, no matter how weak it is, you're not driven to change and grow, so that next time you have a better chance. Not to mention the fact that if kids go through school thinking that everything is easy and happy, and no one ever loses, they're in for one very harsh reality when they get into the real world. How cruel is that?
Quiklilcav wrote:
Also, the ability to articulate is almost a lost art in our culture. For the majority of people to understand you, you need to speak in monosyllabic terms, spelling everything out at a first grade level. The vocabulary of the average individual these days is far more narrow than it was two or three decades ago
Quiklilcav wrote:A truly intelligent person learns not only by what someone teaches them, but also by what they can teach themselves.
Quiklilcav wrote:Where I really believe our educational system is failing is in it's lack of stimulating the students' creativity in logical reason, and encouraging them to work things out for themselves, and to accept failure as part of the learning process.
Quiklilcav wrote:The vocabulary of the average individual these days is far more narrow than it was two or three decades ago.
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"Linguistic intelligence is the ability to think in words and to use language to express and appreciate complex meanings. Linguistic intelligence allows us to understand the order and meaning of words and to apply meta-linguistic skills to reflect on our use of language. Linguistic intelligence is the most widely shared human competence and is evident in poets, novelists, journalists, and effective public speakers. Young adults with this kind of intelligence enjoy writing, reading, telling stories or doing crossword puzzles."
spoiler wrote:and I don't have a problem with personal debates from the past
Quiklilcav wrote:Good job in adding zero value to this thread because you've got a bug up your ass to attempt insulting me.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Quiklilcav wrote:Good job in adding zero value to this thread because you've got a bug up your ass to attempt insulting me.
Nope, I will say it again (like I always do for the Illiterate SOBs) just stating a fact that YOU have no room to talk on this subject.
You talking on this subject is like Bill Clinton talking on fidelity.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Quiklilcav wrote:Good job in adding zero value to this thread because you've got a bug up your ass to attempt insulting me.
Nope, I will say it again (like I always do for the Illiterate SOBs) just stating a fact that YOU have no room to talk on this subject.
You talking on this subject is like Bill Clinton talking on fidelity.
Quiklilcav wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Quiklilcav wrote:Good job in adding zero value to this thread because you've got a bug up your ass to attempt insulting me.
Nope, I will say it again (like I always do for the Illiterate SOBs) just stating a fact that YOU have no room to talk on this subject.
You talking on this subject is like Bill Clinton talking on fidelity.
Because I don't blindly believe and repeat the same bullsh!t rhetoric that you do, and misread data and statistics as you do, is an indication of how wrong you are.
The more you attempt to question my intelligence, the more you make clear your lack of it.
Now stop thread jacking just to make more lame attempts at convincing people I don't know what I'm talking about.
You're becoming more useless everytime you post around here. It's even losing it's humor.
Knoxfire Esquire wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Quiklilcav wrote:Good job in adding zero value to this thread because you've got a bug up your ass to attempt insulting me.
Nope, I will say it again (like I always do for the Illiterate SOBs) just stating a fact that YOU have no room to talk on this subject.
You talking on this subject is like Bill Clinton talking on fidelity.
Actually, I think Quik has a quick (pun intended har-har) and interesting mind. Yes, he and I would viciously disagree on many things politics, but his opinions are his opinions and have no relationship to his intelligence. In fact, if you'd bothered to do more than skim over the posts you might have noticed that THIS IS WHAT THE WHOLE THREAD IS ABOUT!
Do I think Quik is right in loathing Obama? No. Do I think he's right about a lot of things political? No. Do I think he's stupid? No.
Nor are you stupid Good. If I may totally derail this thread and make an observation about you and Quik (and this is entirely my own opinion) it's that you're both extremely passionate about your views and let your c*cks slip away from you at times, you're so quick to whip them out wanting to see whose is the biggest. You sometimes (as far as I can tell) forget that just because you like/agree with something, that doesn't mean it's good; and just because you hate/disagree with something, that doesn't mean it's bad. (Take me, I despise enviromentalists, yet the core of what they're saying is good. Now, if they weren't a bunch of unpragmatic, city dwelling, metrosexual, starbucks drinking, overeducated, high falluting, bourgeois, segway riding, FRIENDS imitating, pretentiously bad playwrights with a chip on their shoulder, intellectual wannabes I might like them more.)
But Good, and I don't say this in a mean way (Cuz I like ya), Quik is a lot more openminded in his views than you are and he doesn't hold a grudge like you do, and I say this while agreeing with your views more than his. Sooooooo... you know?
You two would really like each other if you weren't duelling viewpoints all the time. Maybe one day you're both going to realize that it isn't the Left against the Right or Conservatives against Liberals, but People in power against Everyone else. Politicians use ideology to keep us fighting internally so they can get away with their BS. They learned THAT lesson from the sixties. When a group gets along and is united under one goal, it gets things done. Thus, divide and conquer.
If you two, and people like you, learned to put aside petty differences and put their heads together, then you wouldn't have to look up to politicians to solve problems anymore and they'd go back to being the civil servants that they're supposed to be.
Just saying...
NOW BACK TO TOPIC GODDAMMIT!!!!!
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My point is not so much left vs right but: how the right have been no good in recent history. I am not a democrat, but independent. And my views became like that since ever since this millennium. Both have done no good for this country, and the republican have done more damage then the democrats, especially since the Nixon era. Now leave pride for the party aside and use history knowledge with a little common sense and one might see where I'm coming from. Base your answer on pride and pretty much you get an opinion like Quick's not a fact.